Broadway Grosses: Week Ending 4/28/24- Page 3

[Bill Snibson]

Posted: 5/1/24 at 3:48pm

I mean, I never thought that "Company" would actually go on tour but it has and seems to be doing fine. I think "Merrily" could tour easily since it's basically a unit set and if it was part of a subscription series it could introduce more people to the magic of Sondheim. 

[hearthemsing22]

Posted: 5/1/24 at 3:59pm

Bill Snibson said: "I mean, I never thought that "Company" would actually go on tour but it has and seems to be doing fine. I think "Merrily" could tour easily since it's basically a unit set and if it was part of a subscription series it could introduce more people to the magic of Sondheim."

I just don't find it necessary but apparently I'm in the minority. I guess we do want producers to spend their money freely and with no guarantee that shows could be successful on the road. 

[Kad]

Posted: 5/1/24 at 4:40pm

Merrily is a smash hit that’s already recouped and in a month and a half will likely have won several major Tonys. It will be very attractive to touring houses and their subscribers.

[dramamama611]

Posted: 5/1/24 at 5:05pm

Bringing art to people that can't afford to get to NYC isnt "necessary"? Then why tour anything? I also don't care how producers choose to spend their money. They have plenty. 

[hearthemsing22]

Posted: 5/1/24 at 5:14pm

dramamama611 said: "Bringing art to people that can't afford to get to NYC isnt "necessary"? Then why tour anything? I also don't care how producers choose to spend their money. They have plenty."

Sorry let me rephrase- bringing certain shows that were successful on Broadway isn't always needed on tour, or in the west end, and vice versa. It's unbelievable that Merrily has had the success it's been experiencing on Broadway. It's fantastic. But that does not mean they should tour it. We should know when to stop, and allow other material to shine across the country. 

[kurtal]

Posted: 5/1/24 at 5:16pm

hearthemsing22 said: "dramamama611 said: "Bringing art to people that can't afford to get to NYC isnt "necessary"? Then why tour anything? I also don't care how producers choose to spend their money. They have plenty."

Sorry let me rephrase- bringing certain shows that were successful on Broadway isn't always needed on tour, or in the west end, and vice versa. It's unbelievable that Merrily has had the success it's been experiencing on Broadway. It's fantastic. But that does not mean they should tour it. We should know when to stop, and allow other material to shine across the country."

What would you send instead of Merrily?

[hearthemsing22]

Posted: 5/2/24 at 9:49am

kurtal said: "hearthemsing22 said: "dramamama611 said: "Bringing art to people that can't afford to get to NYC isnt "necessary"? Then why tour anything? I also don't care how producers choose to spend their money. They have plenty."

Sorry let me rephrase- bringing certain shows that were successful on Broadway isn't always needed on tour, or in the west end, and vice versa. It's unbelievable that Merrily has had the success it's been experiencing on Broadway. It's fantastic. But that does not mean they should tour it. We should know when to stop, and allow other material to shine across the country."

What would you send instead of Merrily?"

Parade is going on tour. Sweeney is going on tour. If that does well, maybe they could consider Merrily for 26/27, but those two are enough for now. 

[Kad]

Posted: 5/2/24 at 10:45am

"Those two are enough for now" for who? Touring productions aren't in competition with each other for audiences the way Broadway productions are because they're not in the same markets at the same time, and the cost of seeing those productions is far less for people in their home region than if those folks went to NYC to see them. There is no "wait your turn" in touring. And touring houses are still very much dependent on season subscribers, and the main drive of those subscriptions is having an appealing season roster that is anchored by direct-from-Broadway hits.

Major touring houses still very much compete to be on the first leg of a first national tour, and it's often a big deal for these venues and cities to get these productions.

[Jarethan]

Posted: 5/2/24 at 11:05am

hearthemsing22 said: "dramamama611 said: "Bringing art to people that can't afford to get to NYC isnt "necessary"? Then why tour anything? I also don't care how producers choose to spend their money. They have plenty."

Sorry let me rephrase- bringing certain shows that were successful on Broadway isn't always needed on tour, or in the west end, and vice versa. It's unbelievable that Merrily has had the success it's been experiencing on Broadway. It's fantastic. But that does not mean they should tour it. We should know when to stop, and allow other material to shine across the country."

What other material?  This past season and next season, Tampa has had a decent amount of crap in its Broadway series.  Virtually every season has at least one real dog and a couple of so-what's.  I can assure you that it is not going to keep other better options from happening, unless you would prefer another round of Peter Pan orThe Grinch Who Stole Christmas, Clue, Mystic Pizza or The Addams Family. 

I am wondering whether you think that the hinterlands will not like it (because it is too sophisticated for them) or that it will be unprofitable (do shows that benefit from subscription series lose money? - I really don't know) or what other reason?  Is it that those theatres are too damn big for touring barns?  That I agree with, but that has not stopped shows like The Band's Visit or Next to Normal or Once on This Island or the announced Kimberly Akimbo from touring, to name just four.

[silent]

Posted: 5/2/24 at 11:09am

There are plenty of people who like The Wiz. Just because some of y’all are miserable (and some racist) doesn’t mean you should be projecting that onto others. 

[kurtal]

Posted: 5/2/24 at 1:01pm

silent said: "There are plenty of people who like The Wiz. Just because some of y’all are miserable (and some racist) doesn’t mean you should be projecting that onto others."

I love The Wiz.  I hated this production of The Wiz.  Both the show and the performers deserved better than what this creative team put together.  

[hearthemsing22]

Posted: 5/2/24 at 1:05pm

Jarethan said: "hearthemsing22 said: "dramamama611 said: "Bringing art to people that can't afford to get to NYC isnt "necessary"? Then why tour anything? I also don't care how producers choose to spend their money. They have plenty."

Sorry let me rephrase- bringing certain shows that were successful on Broadway isn't always needed on tour, or in the west end, and vice versa. It's unbelievable that Merrily has had the success it's been experiencing on Broadway. It's fantastic. But that does not mean they should tour it. We should know when to stop, and allow other material to shine across the country."

What other material? This past season and next season, Tampa has had a decent amount of crap in its Broadway series. Virtually every season has at least one real dog and a couple of so-what's. I can assure you that it is not going to keep other better options from happening, unless you would prefer another round of Peter Pan orThe Grinch Who Stole Christmas, Clue, Mystic Pizza or The Addams Family.

I am wondering whether you think that the hinterlands will not like it (because it is too sophisticated for them) or that it will be unprofitable (do shows that benefit from subscription series lose money? - I really don't know) or what other reason? Is it that those theatres are too damn big for touring barns? That I agree with, but that has not stopped shows like The Band's Visit or Next to Normal or Once on This Island or the announced Kimberly Akimbo from touring, to name just four."

Just because you do not like a show, does not mean others in those areas will not. Does not mean they won't see it and bring other people, family, friends, etc. with them. I would never say it's too sophisticated for an area because that's simply not true. The Wiz is a known property that is now on Broadway after touring, and how is it doing? Well? I'm not sure how it did on tour actually so that's not a fair comparison. But unless you have names for Merrily, I'm not sure it will sell. Into the Woods benefited from their cast. I'm not sure if the same would happen with Merrily, given how it was initially received on Broadway in the '90s.

[Kad]

Posted: 5/2/24 at 1:10pm

I don’t even think hearthemsing22 knows why or what they’re arguing. 

[Jarethan]

Posted: 5/2/24 at 5:07pm

Kad said: "I don’t even think hearthemsing22 knows why or what they’re arguing."

I hope so, because I interpret it as a very elitist point of view.

Updated On: 5/2/24 at 05:07 PM

[MezzoDiva47]

Posted: 5/2/24 at 5:13pm

hearthemsing22 said: "kurtal said: "hearthemsing22 said: "dramamama611 said: "Bringing art to people that can't afford to get to NYC isnt "necessary"? Then why tour anything? I also don't care how producers choose to spend their money. They have plenty."

Sorry let me rephrase- bringing certain shows that were successful on Broadway isn't always needed on tour, or in the west end, and vice versa. It's unbelievable that Merrily has had the success it's been experiencing on Broadway. It's fantastic. But that does not mean they should tour it. We should know when to stop, and allow other material to shine across the country."

What would you send instead of Merrily?"

Parade is going on tour. Sweeney is going on tour. If that does well, maybe they could consider Merrily for 26/27, but those two are enough for now."


yes

because the decision to send out a tour depends on securing approval from ppl on this board

 

[hearthemsing22]

Posted: 5/3/24 at 8:51am

MezzoDiva47 said: "hearthemsing22 said: "kurtal said: "hearthemsing22 said: "dramamama611 said: "Bringing art to people that can't afford to get to NYC isnt "necessary"? Then why tour anything? I also don't care how producers choose to spend their money. They have plenty."

Sorry let me rephrase- bringing certain shows that were successful on Broadway isn't always needed on tour, or in the west end, and vice versa. It's unbelievable that Merrily has had the success it's been experiencing on Broadway. It's fantastic. But that does not mean they should tour it. We should know when to stop, and allow other material to shine across the country."

What would you send instead of Merrily?"

Parade is going on tour. Sweeney is going on tour. If that does well, maybe they could consider Merrily for 26/27, but those two are enough for now."


yes

because the decision to send out a tour depends on securing approval from ppl on this board

"

What I'm saying is not being elitist, or a snob, or anything else. It's thinking logically about what would do well on the road. So stop saying or implying I don't know what I'm talking about. Thanks. 

[dramamama611]

Posted: 5/3/24 at 9:11am

Saying you think it won't do well is not the same as saying  it should just be on Broadway.  

 

If you get to say whatever you want, expect everyone will too...even when they disagree with you.

[hearthemsing22]

Posted: 5/3/24 at 9:24am

dramamama611 said: "Saying you think it won't do well is not the same as saying it should just be on Broadway.



If you get to say whatever you want, expect everyone will too...even when they disagree with you."

True. But at least I don't insult people- or try to avoid direct insults- when disagreeing. I don't imply stupidity, or someone not knowing what they're talking about. Can the same be shown to me?