Next Sondheim?

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HenryTDobson
#50Next Sondheim?
Posted: 3/22/24 at 1:04pm

How was the Encores production of Anyone Can Whistle? I've seen clips and Donna Murphy is a dream. I feel like Sutton and Raul could go either way.

Alex Kulak2
#51Next Sondheim?
Posted: 3/22/24 at 1:57pm

KevinKlawitter said: "Concord Theatricals is teasing "exciting Sondheim news" in the coming weeks.

They're probably talking about the cast recording and/or licensing rights forHere We Are,​​​but hey we can dream.
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Concord scoring the rights to Here We Are would be really interesting, given that all but two of Sondheim's shows (Do I Hear A Waltz and Gypsy) are licensed through MTI.

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joevitus
#52Next Sondheim?
Posted: 3/22/24 at 2:28pm

binau said: "joevitus said: "Maybe Bernadette utilizing the same voice for Sally as she used for Marie has confused people about the general age of the four leads."

HAHAHAHAH. To be fair, I do think 49 in 1970 means something different than 49 in 2024 (or 2011;)). I also continue to be annoyed that Bernadette, who at least can sing, always gets trashed for her vocals in Follies while Staunton gets a free pass despite having very little lyrical beauty in Buddy’s Eyes, and lowering the key for Too Many Mornings. Though I thought her Losing my Mind was powerful even if overwrought in her typical style.


I’ve heard that people are trying to put on Forum - so far the attempts have been unsuccessful.
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I'm grateful you got a laugh out of my comment--I was a little worried you'd be offended (I do think the voice was too elderly, but respect your love for Peters).

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Play Esq.
#53Next Sondheim?
Posted: 3/22/24 at 2:39pm

HenryTDobson said: "How was the Encores production of Anyone Can Whistle? I've seen clips and Donna Murphy is a dream. I feel like Sutton and Raul could go either way."

I’ve gone to Encores! performances for over 16 years, and that is easily in my top 3 (behind maybe Follies and Into the Woods).  The pairing made no sense to me at the time (except for Donna, who unsurprisingly blew the roof off) and the early video releases of Sutton in rehearsal did no justice.  However, she had me in tears during the title song and thought the show, I remember her performance so vividly. Raul was also in top form (I’m sure he sounds exquisite still, but this was him in his prime). 

It wasn’t a very production heavy Encores! but it worked and the orchestra was phenomenal (much more than I can than the recent Carnegie debacle…I had to walk out it was so bad). 
 

I agree with Kad, unless I can get a Cate/Julie Night Music, Whistle with that cast would be my next first choice. Hell, I’d settle for a live recording from the run!

chrishuyen
#54Next Sondheim?
Posted: 3/22/24 at 3:02pm

I doubt it would ever work on Broadway but the Southwark Playhouse production of Anyone Can Whistle (which I saw shortly after the recent Carnegie Hall concert) was the closest I've ever seen for the show "working" (and Alex Young as Cora was a hoot too).  I'd love to see a smaller scrappier version of Whistle stateside as well.

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binau
#55Next Sondheim?
Posted: 3/22/24 at 3:18pm

I agree chrishuyen. Somehow I can’t imagine it going down well on this board but the tone was so right because it was so silly. 


"You can't overrate Bernadette Peters. She is such a genius. There's a moment in "Too Many Mornings" and Bernadette doing 'I wore green the last time' - It's a voice that is just already given up - it is so sorrowful. Tragic. You can see from that moment the show is going to be headed into such dark territory and it hinges on this tiny throwaway moment of the voice." - Ben Brantley (2022) "Bernadette's whole, stunning performance [as Rose in Gypsy] galvanized the actors capable of letting loose with her. Bernadette's Rose did take its rightful place, but too late, and unseen by too many who should have seen it" Arthur Laurents (2009) "Sondheim's own favorite star performances? [Bernadette] Peters in ''Sunday in the Park,'' Lansbury in ''Sweeney Todd'' and ''obviously, Ethel was thrilling in 'Gypsy.'' Nytimes, 2000

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uncageg
#56Next Sondheim?
Posted: 3/22/24 at 3:50pm

Today would have been his 94th Birthday so it is all Sondheim all day in my home! 


Just give the world Love.

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NakedMaid
#57Next Sondheim?
Posted: 3/23/24 at 4:09pm

I've been waiting for a James Cordon FORUM revival. With his west coast TV show now done, and the need for a Sondheim revival, could now be the time?

He's a name draw, lover of theatre and was absolutely hilarious in ONE MAN TWO GUVNORS.

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Kad
#58Next Sondheim?
Posted: 3/23/24 at 4:52pm

NakedMaid said: "I've been waiting for a James Cordon FORUM revival. With his west coast TV show now done, and the need for a Sondheim revival, could now be the time?

He's a name draw, lover of theatre and was absolutely hilarious in ONE MAN TWO GUVNORS.
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It was very close to happening in 2015, directed by Alex Timbers, but then he got the Late Late Show. His performance in One Man Two Guv'nors was absolutely hysterical- that production remains one of the funniest things I've ever seen. However, it was just announced he was going to star in a new play called The Constituent at the Old Vic this summer, so it doesn't seem likely in the immediate/near future.

(I also wonder if popular opinion on Corden hasn't largely soured over the last decade).


"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."

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Robbie2
#59Next Sondheim?
Posted: 3/24/24 at 6:21pm

Forum then Bart Sher's Follies at LCT


"Anything you do, let it it come from you--then it will be new." Sunday in the Park with George

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Musicaldudepeter
#61Next Sondheim?
Posted: 3/29/24 at 7:03am

I would love a Judy Kuhn Cora

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The8re phan
#62Next Sondheim?
Posted: 3/29/24 at 9:31am

I'd prefer a Carolee Carmello Cora


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Updated On: 3/29/24 at 09:31 AM

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Kad
#63Next Sondheim?
Posted: 3/29/24 at 9:40am

A CSC Whistle makes sense. Wholesale did well for them, they’ve done three other offbeat Sondheim shows, and they’re in a bad spot financially right now and this would be kind of a sure hit for them in terms of ticket sales. 
 

I actually saw a stripped down Whistle in London with Rosalie Craig as Faye - it happened at the exact same time as the Encores production, coincidentally enough. The production did a Brechtian take on the material and I thought it worked surprisingly well.


"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."

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ljay889
#64Next Sondheim?
Posted: 3/29/24 at 10:27am

The8re phan said: "I'd prefera Carolee Carmello Cora"

I thought of Carmello as well. The role needs a brassy singer. Even someone like Kahn sounded bland singing the role.

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TotallyEffed
#65Next Sondheim?
Posted: 3/29/24 at 11:09am

I’m not sure Judy Kuhn has a funny bone in her body.

 

Nancy Opel!

Falsettolands
#66Next Sondheim?
Posted: 3/29/24 at 11:25am

A Tracie Bennett Cora would be my pick.

Yes, She can sing it just fine -not accepting criticism of her voice today.

 But her interpretation would be incredible!

Updated On: 3/29/24 at 11:25 AM

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CurtainsUpat8
#67Next Sondheim?
Posted: 3/29/24 at 11:51am

How about we have a year moratorium on producing Sondheim shows?  I love him as much as anyone else, but theatre in NYC is just getting silly.

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TotallyEffed
#68Next Sondheim?
Posted: 3/29/24 at 11:59am

CurtainsUpat8 said: "How about we have a year moratorium on producing Sondheim shows? I love him as much as anyone else, but theatre in NYC is just getting silly."


Then don’t go. Anyway.

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Kad
#69Next Sondheim?
Posted: 3/29/24 at 1:39pm

Nancy Opel is an incredible casting suggestion. She’s beyond overdue for a great leading role again 


"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."

rattleNwoolypenguin
#70Next Sondheim?
Posted: 3/29/24 at 2:22pm

CurtainsUpat8 said: "How about we have a year moratorium on producing Sondheim shows? I love him as much as anyone else, but theatre in NYC is just getting silly."

do you hear yourself?

rattleNwoolypenguin
#71Next Sondheim?
Posted: 3/29/24 at 2:29pm

That said, I'm not convinced Whistle as a real revival will work.

It's a wonderful score but I've now seen the show now numerous times and every time I say "It is the flop that it is."

Unless someone goes in and does some real real work on the book I just don't think this is the Sondheim show that's gonna come back alive and that's okay!

It really is and was perfect for Encores in that way.

I knew that Merrily could get it right eventually, and I'm thrilled they did.

I'm not sure this show can

 

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Jesse St. James
#72Next Sondheim?
Posted: 3/29/24 at 2:58pm

According to sweaty oracle, John Weidman is doing book revisions. He did a great job revising the book for Wholesale. 

Ravenclaw
#73Next Sondheim?
Posted: 3/29/24 at 3:20pm

For me, the Encores production was nearly perfect. I doubt Weidman's book revisions will get close to what David Ives's revisions did--spinning a thread of logic while totally preserving the wacky tone, clearing out the clutter of the piece, and letting the score truly shine. I've wished for years that the Encores book would become the officially licensed version (like Follies), but, alas.

rattleNwoolypenguin
#74Next Sondheim?
Posted: 3/29/24 at 4:01pm

I think it should be a one act. Absurdity of this nature should be a one and done experience.