Election 2024- Page 2

[Zeppie2022]

Posted: 1/31/24 at 9:26am

"The Republican Party is in a sad state indeed. I’d go so far as to pronounce it dead. It’s the “MAGA” party now, completely detached from reality. A cult."

It is not dead yet, it will be after Nov 2024 with another Trump loss. What these MAGA idiots do not understand is the only reason Trump won in 2016 was that Hillary Clinton was even more unlikeable than Trump personally to many voters which is amazing.

[Jay Lerner-Z]

Posted: 1/31/24 at 5:19pm

Misogyny is to blame for that. I guess it’s also fair to say that in fact she was NOT less popular, considering she won the popular vote. Sad.

[Zeppie2022]

Posted: 2/1/24 at 10:11am

"Misogyny is to blame for that. I guess it’s also fair to say that in fact she was NOT less popular, considering she won the popular vote. Sad."

Really. To paraphrase Nancy Pelosi, there are places (NY, California) you could run a glass of water with a (D) next to it and win. Those two states gave Clinton over 5 million vote majority in the popular vote. Ask yourself, when was the last time a Republican candidate for POTUS came even remotely close to winning these states.

Misogyny to blame, give me a break. For example, Clinton never campaigned in Wisconsin with state being up for grabs, she would lose the state by 23,000 votes. Clinton called millions of people "deplorables", not exactly a way to gather votes for yourself. 
 

[Jay Lerner-Z]

Posted: 2/1/24 at 12:54pm

None of those things would have mattered if Hillary had been a man. Misogyny is absolutely to blame, saying it is not is basically saying that misogyny does not exist. It is a hurdle that Trump never needed to face. 
A woman needs to go that extra mile to even be considered a contender, and you are simply blaming her for not going that extra mile. Whereas any level of incompetence, mediocrity, or even corruption can be completely overlooked if the candidate is a man. Or white.

[Zeppie2022]

Posted: 2/1/24 at 8:38pm

"A woman needs to go that extra mile to even be considered a contender, and you are simply blaming her for not going that extra mile. Whereas any level of incompetence, mediocrity, or even corruption can be completely overlooked if the candidate is a man. Or white."

Really Jay. It is not going the extra mile to actually campaign in a swing state (Wisconsin), it is necessity. It does not take a genius to know it is wrong to label millions of people "deplorables". Hillary Clinton took well advantage of being married to Bill Clinton. You think she would have gotten to be carpetbagger US Senator from NY, Secretary of State and Democratic nominee for POTUS if she was Hillary Rodham? Don't even bother replying, I can already assume your response -lol. Please tell me the extra mile our current VP needed to be candidate/contender for POTUS and then become VP. Please tell me how Bush (43) level of incompetence was overlooked. Are you old enough to remember VP Spiro Agnew who resigned due to corruption charges? Do you really want me to start a list of white male politicians who either resigned or were forced from office.

[kdogg36]

Posted: 2/2/24 at 11:42am

Zeppie2022 said: "It does not take a genius to know it is wrong to label millions of people "deplorables.'"

It was definitely unwise, but it was quite obviously correct. Those who voted for Donald Trump are human garbage.

Actually, that's too generous. Just garbage.

[Zeppie2022]

Posted: 2/2/24 at 12:11pm

"It was definitely unwise, but it was quite obviously correct. Those who voted for Donald Trump are human garbage."

If that is her belief that is fine but incredibly stupid politically. 

[South Florida]

Posted: 2/19/24 at 7:23am

Haley will pardon Dump, did she have to say that? "The country needs to heal." It's all so sad. I think that talk will invigorate the Biden vote.

[fosterfan2]

Posted: 2/19/24 at 9:52am

I hope you're right,S.F.

[Zeppie2022]

Posted: 2/19/24 at 9:53am

"Haley will pardon Dump, did she have to say that? "The country needs to heal." It's all so sad. I think that talk will invigorate the Biden vote."

Gerald Ford pardoned Nixon because he thought it was best for the country to move on with the nation's problems. Ford lost election but it was probably the right decision. 

[Jay Lerner-Z]

Posted: 2/19/24 at 3:09pm

Yeah... but so what, that was half a century ago and should not set a precedent forevermore.

The important part is “what’s best for the country”, not what’s best for Nikki Haley’s campaign. The litany of crimes Trump committed and encouraged is on a different scale to anything Nixon was accused of.

[Zeppie2022]

Posted: 2/19/24 at 4:44pm

"Yeah... but so what, that was half a century ago and should not set a precedent forevermore. The important part is “what’s best for the country”, not what’s best for Nikki Haley’s campaign"

Where did I say it should be a precedent forevermore? I mentioned it because a POTUS made a risky political decision because he thought it was the right thing to do for the country at that time. President Ford knew damn well this was going to cost him big time in the 1976 election, he stood for his principal belief over his career gain.

"The litany of crimes Trump committed and encouraged is on a different scale to anything Nixon was accused of."

The family of Richard Nixon would love to know that you think the Watergate break in and coverup was no big deal -lol. Just for the record, refresh my memory with the litany of Trump crimes.

Updated On: 2/19/24 at 04:44 PM

[Jay Lerner-Z]

Posted: 2/19/24 at 7:43pm

I'd rather not.

He's brought democracy to the brink of complete destruction... isn't that enough for you?

[Zeppie2022]

Posted: 2/19/24 at 10:58pm

"I'd rather not. He's brought democracy to the brink of complete destruction... isn't that enough for you?"

You really don't get sarcasm very well -lol. Next time I will make it easier for you.

[South Florida]

Posted: 2/21/24 at 7:12pm

" Just for the record, refresh my memory with the litany of Trump crimes."

Yeah, I didn't get the sarcasm either. Maybe you're not too good at it.

[Zeppie2022]

Posted: 2/22/24 at 8:13am

"Yeah, I didn't get the sarcasm either. Maybe you're not too good at it."

Ok, it will be one of my high priorities in 2024 to getter better at it. ****Note sarcasm*** Any better? -lol

[Jay Lerner-Z]

Posted: 3/14/24 at 1:40pm

There’s no need for a presumptive nominee thread, as there is already an election thread. 
 

Ghosting me and treating me as if I do not exist is arguably bullying, but it happens here regularly. Sad.